ChromePlus needs it's own Application Data folder

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ChromePlus needs it's own Application Data folder

Postby bksening » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:56 am

When I started ChromePlus for the first time, it instantly already had an entire History list, Downloads list, saved cookies, saved passwords, etc. when I didn't even go to one page yet using ChromePlus!

It looks like ChromePlus is pulling all the settings from my already installed Google Chrome.

You cannot do that! Since the ChromePlus system requirements only lists "WinXP/Win2003/Vista/Win7" it looks like a completely self-contained separate software program, without any dependency on Google Chrome.

So far there has *not* been any new directory created in "C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Local Settings\Application Data" for ChromePlus. But ChromePlus *must* create and use its own Application Data folder, not reuse the one from Google Chrome!
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Re: ChromePlus needs it's own Application Data folder

Postby chromeplus » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:36 am

Well, we hope the users can switch between Chrome and ChromePlus freely without copying the settings from Chrome folder to Chromium folder and vice versa currently.
If you have really strong and clear objection on that, please let up know. Thank you!
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Re: ChromePlus needs it's own Application Data folder

Postby msxcms » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:00 pm

我很需要这个功能,自己可以指定档案文件夹,不要老写在系统盘下面。这样我双系统切换的时候会很方便,配置、收藏夹、Cookies都可以迁移,如果用相对路径的话,还可以放在u盘上(TW3有这个功能)。
还希望能自定义鼠标手势
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Re: ChromePlus needs it's own Application Data folder

Postby bksening » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:20 am

@chromeplus, for "users can switch between Chrome and ChromePlus freely without copying the settings" is definitely something you do *NOT* want, and is a *totally BAD* thing to do or encourage.

After all, ChromePlus is a totally separate browser with nothing to do with Google Chrome, so users should *not* have any expectation that they can switch back and forth and retain settings. That is certainly *NOT* expected, nor do I wish any software product (ChromePlus included) to read and/or modify the Application Data contents of any other software. ChromePlus is its own software. I expect it will have its own history, cookies, bookmarks, etc.

Additionally, the Chromium code and user data files which all these browsers are based on is not necessarily supported nor guaranteed to be compatible between major versions. This is already explicitly true for Chromium code/versions. Currently Google Chrome Stable 2.0.172.43 is based on Chromium 2.x code, while ChromePlus is based on Chromium 3.x code. In case users do switch between Google Chrome and ChromePlus, have you done sufficient testing and verification that Chromium 2.x code and user data files are compatible with Chromium 3.x, and also that changes/updates are will not cause problems?
*IMPORTANT* Is Maple Studio verifying and providing additional support that ChromePlus works with and will not corrupt any Google Chrome user data files based on Chromium 2.x?

For all these reasons, the only logical method and the one that follows software design best practices is for ChromePlus to use its own Application Data folder, and not to touch any of Chrome's data at all!
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Re: ChromePlus needs it's own Application Data folder

Postby threelions » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:51 am

msxcms wrote:我很需要这个功能,自己可以指定档案文件夹,不要老写在系统盘下面。这样我双系统切换的时候会很方便,配置、收藏夹、Cookies都可以迁移,如果用相对路径的话,还可以放在u盘上(TW3有这个功能)。
还希望能自定义鼠标手势

其实你说的是一个便携版,德国人开发的srware iron已经有个portable版了,都是写在程序目录里的
we need a portable edtion,just like Srware Iron.all files generated put into Iron program directory.
but Iron only contains basic functions.i can't live without mouse gesture.
further more,i need a online bookmark,like xmark on firefox.
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Re: ChromePlus needs it's own Application Data folder

Postby JohnMartin » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:10 pm

I second you on this bksening !!!

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Re: ChromePlus needs it's own Application Data folder

Postby chromeplus » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:36 pm

After an internal discussion, we deem that your suggestion is really reasonable. We'll add it into our dev plan.
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Re: ChromePlus needs it's own Application Data folder

Postby bksening » Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:01 am

This issue is not fixed either! No!!! Using C:\Program Files\ChromePlus\ChromePlusUserData is definitely not an "Application Data" folder, and you should *NOT* be using that folder anyway to store user configuration data!

For ChromePlus to have its own Application Data folder, which also means a separate directory for each different user, it must be placed in:
Windows XP: Google Chrome: C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Application Data\ChromePlus\
Vista: Google Chrome: C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\ChromePlus\

And storing user configuration data into the C:\Program Files area is just propagating bad software design and against Microsoft's best practices for software installation and use. Regular users will *not* have write permission into C:\Program Files so you should *NOT* be storing user configuration data there!

If your answer is going to be "that directory was chosen to make ChromePlus portable", my reply is: it is _impossible_ to have only one version for ChromePlus for both installed users and portable users. You *MUST* make two *SEPARATE* versions.
The installed version will store user configuration data into:
Windows XP: Google Chrome: C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Application Data\ChromePlus\
Vista: Google Chrome: C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\ChromePlus\

and the portable version can store its data into %TEMP%\ChromePlusUserData
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